12 string guitars of Fred Neil

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

[Inyo]

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil

play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is
playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here
if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Probably the best answer to this ever-popular query is to explore why
everybody's talkin' with the dolphins about Fred Neil's 12-string guitar
on the other side of this life.

http://inyo.coffeecup.com/site/acoustic/acousticinyo24.html
My solo, acoustic, instrumental 12-string guitar version of "The
Letter," a Wayne Carson Thompson composition; #1 US Billboard for The
Box Tops, 1967.

[hank alrich]

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil
play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is
playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here
if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Probably the best answer to this ever-popular query is to explore why
everybody's talkin' with the dolphins about Fred Neil's 12-string guitar
on the other side of this life.

People may think that getting one of the same instruments will have one
sounding much like the player in question.

They may be right. I want to sing those low notes like he did. I wonder
what larynx Fred was using?

[Steve Daniels]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:36:56 -0700, against all advice, something

Post by hank alrich
People may think that getting one of the same instruments will have one
sounding much like the player in question.

"Hey! I bought this 000-28 Eric Clapton Signature Martin, and it doesn't
sound like Eric at all! I want my money back!"

[hank alrich]

Post by Steve Daniels
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 19:36:56 -0700, against all advice, something

Post by hank alrich
People may think that getting one of the same instruments will have one
sounding much like the player in question.

"Hey! I bought this 000-28 Eric Clapton Signature Martin, and it doesn't
sound like Eric at all! I want my money back!"

You paid money for that?

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Never entered my mind to try to sound like Fred Neil. No one could. I'm only interested in what guitars he played as a matter of reference, nothing else. If no one knows, I understand, I just thought it was worth a try to ask.

[hank alrich]

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play
in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is
playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post
here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Never entered my mind to try to sound like Fred Neil. No one could. I'm
only interested in what guitars he played as a matter of reference,
nothing else. If no one knows, I understand, I just thought it was
worth a try to ask.

Looking over images at Wikipedia I can almost read the headstock inlay
on one guitar that shows up in many of the pics, while I note that more
than one guitar shows up over the years.

At his website the photos from Montreux Jazz Festival show him with what
looks to me to be a Martin D12-35.

Somewhere there's bound to be a shot where the name on the headstock of
that frequent flyer is legible.

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Certainly would be easier to not reply at all or to say, "I don't know." I'm 63 I'm not trying to sound like Fred Neil, no can do that, he had a unique voice that can't be duplicated. He played some guitars, it was only a simple question to see if someone knew what he played, nothing else, no ulterior motive, just a matter of reference.

[Jim Boyd]

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Certainly would be easier to not reply at all or to say, "I don't know." I'm 63 I'm not trying to sound like Fred Neil, no can do that, he had a unique voice that can't be duplicated. He played some guitars, it was only a simple question to see if someone knew what he played, nothing else, no ulterior motive, just a matter of reference.

Looking at the website http://www.fredneil.com/photo-gallery/ (and I am
guessing but it is partially readable) photo 14 of 20 appears to read
Miguel.

[hank alrich]

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil
play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is
playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post
here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Certainly would be easier to not reply at all or to say, "I don't know."

(OP: This is effectively a room where folks hang out together and
banter. If you can hang maybe something will be learned.)

Post by Jim Boyd

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I'm 63 I'm not trying to sound like Fred Neil, no can do that, he had a
unique voice that can't be duplicated. He played some guitars, it was
only a simple question to see if someone knew what he played, nothing
else, no ulterior motive, just a matter of reference.

Looking at the website http://www.fredneil.com/photo-gallery/ (and I am
guessing but it is partially readable) photo 14 of 20 appears to read
Miguel.

Bingo! I think you've done it.

Miguel & Co., Cuban luthier who moved to Litte Havana.

http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245923

http://tinyurl.com/nenbm8l


This lacks the name/logo, but the headstock, etc., looks apropo.

http://s268.photobucket.com/user/vidalassoc/library/?sort=6&page=1

http://tinyurl.com/nya8jdg

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I know it was a Martin , I just don't know which model, when I saw him in 91 I believe he had a six string Martin with him. Chris would know better than I , if any of you know who I'm talking about he would be the person to ask .

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

Fred Neil played a "Miguel Companie", 12-string, and on the label it said,"Specialising in 12-string guitars". Fred's repairman in NYC, Marc Silber(now of Berkeley,CA), gave one to me as a gift, knowing how I loved Fred. I'm a luthier, and although I glued the guitar back together, it was very lightly built, very fragile, and eventually imploded. It was an X-braced top with no bridge-plate, instead relying on a massive rosewood bridge to take the accumulated stress of the tension of 12 strings. I saved the back. It was dreadnaught shaped, with 12 frets to the body on a mahogany neck with a wide nut. The top was spruce, and the body was Brazilian rosewood.....Al Milburn, luthier

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing with a very long peg head that I don't recognize. Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

He played a Miguel 12 string. One of Miguel's early
models, maybe #5. Bob Ingram in Miami I believe also had one.
Perhaps he will respond. They were fantastic instruments.
I owned #33 when I lived there. Wish I had never sold it,
but I did. It is the only guitar I ever wished I had back.

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Does anyone here know for sure what 12 string guitars did Fred Neil play
in his recordings and on stage? I see photos on line of one he is playing
with a very long peg head that I don't recognize.
Please post here if you know what he played, no guessing please.

He played a Miguel 12 string. One of Miguel's early
models, maybe #5. Bob Ingram in Miami I believe also had one.
Perhaps he will respond. They were fantastic instruments.
I owned #33 when I lived there. Wish I had never sold it,
but I did. It is the only guitar I ever wished I had back.

scroll way down <enjoy the ride> in this Flick CoffeeHouse fb page -
- to June 2013 - and see a 1963 photo of a dapper foursome -
- one holding the 12 string.

https://www.facebook.com/The-Flick-Coffeehouse-269291933095721/?nr

John T.