Discussion:
whats new in acoustic amps for guitar and vocals???
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j***@lycos.com
2005-11-23 18:27:21 UTC
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Hello All,

I have been using a Centaur A1024V, 60 watt acoustic amp. I sounds
good on guitar and more inportantly vocals. It does have some
limitation such as a master EQ instead of one on each channel,no notch
filter . chorus ,etc,


Anyways I am trying to shop my acoustic guitar /vocals act around to
some restaurants that have very small lounge/bars. I would like to use
an acoustic amp in this case for a quick set up and take down.


Is there anything new to the market that would be better than the
Centaur Acoustic PA for vocals plus acoustic guitar?


I read some older posts that recommend the Trace so that might be an
option.


Just looking for some ideas from peolpe who sing and play through on
of these units
MBarnett
2005-11-24 15:21:10 UTC
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Post by j***@lycos.com
Hello All,
I have been using a Centaur A1024V, 60 watt acoustic amp. I sounds
good on guitar and more inportantly vocals. It does have some
limitation such as a master EQ instead of one on each channel,no notch
filter . chorus ,etc,
Anyways I am trying to shop my acoustic guitar /vocals act around to
some restaurants that have very small lounge/bars. I would like to use
an acoustic amp in this case for a quick set up and take down.
Is there anything new to the market that would be better than the
Centaur Acoustic PA for vocals plus acoustic guitar?
John,

I have yet to own one, but the Ultrasound amps are a wonderful match for
guitar & vocal in a small venue. See them at www.ultrasoundamps.com

Monte
Doug
2005-11-24 16:31:04 UTC
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Behringer ACX1000 has two channels and is 60 watts, 3 inputs (one XLR),
seperate EQ and two notch filters per channel, reverb, chorus etc.
Musicans Friend has them for $300.

If it is loud enough for you, I think it would work. Mine sounds good.
Try one out.
Misifus
2005-11-24 16:43:39 UTC
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Post by MBarnett
Post by j***@lycos.com
Hello All,
I have been using a Centaur A1024V, 60 watt acoustic amp. I sounds
good on guitar and more inportantly vocals. It does have some
limitation such as a master EQ instead of one on each channel,no notch
filter . chorus ,etc,
Anyways I am trying to shop my acoustic guitar /vocals act around to
some restaurants that have very small lounge/bars. I would like to use
an acoustic amp in this case for a quick set up and take down.
Is there anything new to the market that would be better than the
Centaur Acoustic PA for vocals plus acoustic guitar?
John,
I have yet to own one, but the Ultrasound amps are a wonderful match
for guitar & vocal in a small venue. See them at www.ultrasoundamps.com
Monte
I will second Monte's recommendation. I own a pair of Ultrasounds that
I use for just that purpose. I have an AG-50DS2 and an AG-50E, that is,
a full blown 50 watt acoustic amp and a 50 watt extension cabinet. With
these up on stands, they do very well for moderate sized venues.

The current model is the AG-50DS3. With this new amp, the built in
effects can be routed to either of the two input channels, or to both.
Also, each channel has both volume and EQ, as well as the master volume,
a notch filter and a "shape" switch.

The extension cabinet has no pre amp, just the 50 watt power amp and
speakers. In effect, it's a slave that follows whatever you've asked
the main amp to do.

This is a very clean and fairly affordable solution to acoustic PA
needs. In addition to a clean sound and plenty of volume, the units are
easy to handle. A number of others here use similar setups, and I
happen to know that Teja Gerken has one too.

-Raf
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Rafael Seibert
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http://www.ralphandsue.com
Mike Brown
2005-11-29 09:30:30 UTC
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Raf
Do you use a foldback (monitor) with them ?

I have a Fender Acoustasonic Junior at the moment, but have just about
given up using it because it has no provision for monitoring, and I
can't seem to get the sound sorted without one (in spite of some advice
from posters here).

I'm going to buy a small PA system one of these days.

MJRB
Misifus
2005-11-29 14:31:42 UTC
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Post by Mike Brown
Raf
Do you use a foldback (monitor) with them ?
I have a Fender Acoustasonic Junior at the moment, but have just about
given up using it because it has no provision for monitoring, and I
can't seem to get the sound sorted without one (in spite of some advice
from posters here).
I'm going to buy a small PA system one of these days.
MJRB
No, Mike, I don't have a dedicated monitor. With the amps up about head
high, and off to either side, I feel I can hear enough of the sound to
judge the quality. I usually go with pretty flat settings. I depend on
my wife or friends to let me know about levels.

-Raf
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Rafael Seibert
mailto:***@cox.net
http://www.ralphandsue.com
George W.
2005-11-30 01:31:44 UTC
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Post by Misifus
Post by Mike Brown
Raf
Do you use a foldback (monitor) with them ?
I have a Fender Acoustasonic Junior at the moment, but have just about
given up using it because it has no provision for monitoring, and I
can't seem to get the sound sorted without one (in spite of some advice
from posters here).
I'm going to buy a small PA system one of these days.
MJRB
No, Mike, I don't have a dedicated monitor. With the amps up about head
high, and off to either side, I feel I can hear enough of the sound to
judge the quality. I usually go with pretty flat settings. I depend on
my wife or friends to let me know about levels.
-Raf
I used the suggestions I got here for amp placement (Ultrasound 50) ,
including Raf's, and they worked great. Two to three feet behind me
and a few feet to one side, turned slightly toward me. (I had it on my
right.) This really worked well....no feedback and I could actually
hear myself. It's the first time I used the amp out as anything other
than a monitor facing me and it worked so well....and so much better
than most PA's I've played through...I'll be using it more often.

It really sounded good in a pretty fair sized room all by itself but
I'd still like to add another cab for when I need it. You guys have
any opinion on using the 50 DS2 with the 30 watt Ultrasound, either
separately or as a pair...."50+30", "30+30", or "50+30+30"? Two 30
watt amps isn't that much more expensive than one 50 watt extension.

G.
u***@aol.com
2005-11-30 14:13:07 UTC
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Morning Everyone,

UltraSound has just introduced a new amp model called the CP 100. It's
a 100 Watt RMS amp with all the features of the 50DS3 plus RCA Jacks.
Best of all it only weighs in at 31 lbs. You can check out the specs
on our website or if you want to see what the mags are saying give me a
buzz and I'll send you the review.

The Doc
Misifus
2005-11-30 16:21:24 UTC
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Post by u***@aol.com
Morning Everyone,
UltraSound has just introduced a new amp model called the CP 100. It's
a 100 Watt RMS amp with all the features of the 50DS3 plus RCA Jacks.
Best of all it only weighs in at 31 lbs. You can check out the specs
on our website or if you want to see what the mags are saying give me a
buzz and I'll send you the review.
The Doc
The copy of Acoustic Guitar I received yesterday had a review of the CP
100. I'd like to hear one. 100W through just one 8" driver with a coax
tweeter. It shows promise.

George, I can't help you with regards the 30 watters, but my 50 pair
works well. I think Bobs has the biggest collection of various US models.

-Raf
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Rafael Seibert
mailto:***@cox.net
http://www.ralphandsue.com
George W.
2005-11-30 22:32:50 UTC
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Post by u***@aol.com
Morning Everyone,
UltraSound has just introduced a new amp model called the CP 100. It's
a 100 Watt RMS amp with all the features of the 50DS3 plus RCA Jacks.
Best of all it only weighs in at 31 lbs. You can check out the specs
on our website or if you want to see what the mags are saying give me a
buzz and I'll send you the review.
The Doc
I'd be interested in knowing what the thinking was behind this model
(beyond the 100 watts in a small box) but it's interesting looking,
with some nice features. I like the phantom power, which I assume is
always on since I don't see a switch. Is this a new speaker design
that we'll be seeing more of? This model amp is actually smaller that
the 50.

Now if you would only change the color. How about something in a nice
dark brown? <g>

G.

ljguitar
2005-11-24 17:33:11 UTC
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Hi John...
I use an UltraSound AG-50 and my gigging partner uses an SWR Strawberry
Blonde. He plays guitar and bass through his and sings, and I play
acoustic and sing through mine.

It is a most natural guitar amp, and suited well to small venues. If I
were playing larger ones, I'd probably get the extension cabinet for
the UltraSound rather than using an SWR, Shanendoah, Fishman or Trance.

I am intrigued by Fishman's new model with tri-amp capability, but the
weight is offputting. My UltraSound is a bit over 20 pounds.

Larry J
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