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David Hajicek
2013-03-22 06:10:07 UTC
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I'm thinking you have changed your e-mail account. Please drop me a note.
Regards,
Dave
Kevin Hall
2013-03-23 00:19:58 UTC
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Hi Dave;

"Ping" yerself. ;-) Same e-dress as always. Have you been getting some
back? Haven't heard from you in ages.

We're waiting for the ground to get soft enough to sink a footing for a new
sat. dish mast, because the highspeed internet peddlers are telling me that
with the new satellite which is now in a slightly higher orbit they should
be able to hook us up to real service at long last. That means if all goes
well we will be changing the e-dress, but probably not for another month or
so. Have to wait for the frost to get out of the ground, and before that
happens about two feet of snow needs to clear off.

Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.

All the best
KH
Post by David Hajicek
I'm thinking you have changed your e-mail account. Please drop me a note.
Regards,
Dave
p***@nospam.us
2013-03-23 02:06:03 UTC
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Kevin Hall
2013-03-23 02:50:38 UTC
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Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
I know I'm revealling a previously unsuspected optimistic streak, but we
all have flaws.

KH
Mike Brown
2013-03-23 04:51:32 UTC
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Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Kevin Hall
2013-03-23 13:55:36 UTC
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Post by Mike Brown
Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Lots of good, decent people offer themselves as political candidates in an
attempt to provide genuine public service or to address specific problems in
which they have a personal interest. The system then tends to grind those
idealists down with frustration. Some end up going with the flow and
becoming just as self-serving and hypocritical as the rest, some just come
to their senses and leave the fray to rejoin the real world and the very
rare, durable, stubborn and determined example keeps slugging away in the
trenches.

As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites
and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms. What we
really need are individuals of strong character who are willing to make and
stick to difficult decisions which may not be immediately popular to the
unschooled majority of voters. Sadly, such people are seldom able to fake
sincerity long enough or well enough to amuse the mass media for the length
of an election campaign. Does anyone really think the talking heads of
modern TV would ever allow the likes of an Abraham Lincoln to get a sniff of
the Oval Office? One of the most decent and competent Canadians to ever
offer himself as a candidate for Prime Minister, Bob Stanfield, was
unfortunate enough to have somewhat simian features and a shy, awkward
personal manner. The media killed his political career stone dead just
for the amusement of being able to lampoon the man on a daily basis,
printing and broadcasting cartoons of him eating a banana, documenting
every stumble or physical mis-step. How many similarly competent and
decent folks would willingly subject themselves and their families to such
treatment?

KH
Mike Brown
2013-03-24 00:12:34 UTC
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Post by Kevin Hall
Post by Mike Brown
Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Lots of good, decent people offer themselves as political candidates in an
attempt to provide genuine public service or to address specific problems in
which they have a personal interest. The system then tends to grind those
idealists down with frustration. Some end up going with the flow and
becoming just as self-serving and hypocritical as the rest, some just come
to their senses and leave the fray to rejoin the real world and the very
rare, durable, stubborn and determined example keeps slugging away in the
trenches.
As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites
and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms. What we
really need are individuals of strong character who are willing to make and
stick to difficult decisions which may not be immediately popular to the
unschooled majority of voters. Sadly, such people are seldom able to fake
sincerity long enough or well enough to amuse the mass media for the length
of an election campaign. Does anyone really think the talking heads of
modern TV would ever allow the likes of an Abraham Lincoln to get a sniff of
the Oval Office? One of the most decent and competent Canadians to ever
offer himself as a candidate for Prime Minister, Bob Stanfield, was
unfortunate enough to have somewhat simian features and a shy, awkward
personal manner. The media killed his political career stone dead just
for the amusement of being able to lampoon the man on a daily basis,
printing and broadcasting cartoons of him eating a banana, documenting
every stumble or physical mis-step. How many similarly competent and
decent folks would willingly subject themselves and their families to such
treatment?
KH
Well put.
The media representatives are one step lower on the scale than the
politicians. They destroy peoples lives just for entertainment.

The thing that I have noticed is that retired politicians who no longer
have to toe the party line are often pretty smart, and have some
sensible ideas. I find that I quite like blokes who have previously
acted like unprincipled half wits.

Our "Labor" party out here has been involved in a steady process of
destroying itself ever since they got elected, the Prime minister has
just sacked one of their brightest men because he tried to make them
sort out their wrangling and get on with the job, and many of her front
bench have resigned because they couldn't manage to sack her and put a
previously rejected candidate in her place.

The only thing that might save them at the next election (though it gets
less and less likely) is that the leader of the opposition is such an
unpleasant loudmouthed character. I certainly wouldn't vote for any
party that he led.
MJRB
Tony Done
2013-03-24 19:18:05 UTC
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Post by Mike Brown
Post by Kevin Hall
Post by Mike Brown
Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Lots of good, decent people offer themselves as political candidates in an
attempt to provide genuine public service or to address specific problems in
which they have a personal interest. The system then tends to grind those
idealists down with frustration. Some end up going with the flow and
becoming just as self-serving and hypocritical as the rest, some just come
to their senses and leave the fray to rejoin the real world and the very
rare, durable, stubborn and determined example keeps slugging away in the
trenches.
As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites
and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms. What we
really need are individuals of strong character who are willing to make and
stick to difficult decisions which may not be immediately popular to the
unschooled majority of voters. Sadly, such people are seldom able to fake
sincerity long enough or well enough to amuse the mass media for the length
of an election campaign. Does anyone really think the talking heads of
modern TV would ever allow the likes of an Abraham Lincoln to get a sniff of
the Oval Office? One of the most decent and competent Canadians to ever
offer himself as a candidate for Prime Minister, Bob Stanfield, was
unfortunate enough to have somewhat simian features and a shy, awkward
personal manner. The media killed his political career stone dead just
for the amusement of being able to lampoon the man on a daily basis,
printing and broadcasting cartoons of him eating a banana, documenting
every stumble or physical mis-step. How many similarly competent and
decent folks would willingly subject themselves and their families to such
treatment?
KH
Well put.
The media representatives are one step lower on the scale than the
politicians. They destroy peoples lives just for entertainment.
The thing that I have noticed is that retired politicians who no longer
have to toe the party line are often pretty smart, and have some
sensible ideas. I find that I quite like blokes who have previously
acted like unprincipled half wits.
Our "Labor" party out here has been involved in a steady process of
destroying itself ever since they got elected, the Prime minister has
just sacked one of their brightest men because he tried to make them
sort out their wrangling and get on with the job, and many of her front
bench have resigned because they couldn't manage to sack her and put a
previously rejected candidate in her place.
The only thing that might save them at the next election (though it gets
less and less likely) is that the leader of the opposition is such an
unpleasant loudmouthed character. I certainly wouldn't vote for any
party that he led.
MJRB
Depressing choosing between bad and worse, eh?
--
Tony Done

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=784456
http://www.flickr.com/photos/done_family/
Kevin Hall
2013-03-24 21:49:23 UTC
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Post by Tony Done
Post by Mike Brown
Post by Kevin Hall
Post by Mike Brown
Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Lots of good, decent people offer themselves as political candidates in an
attempt to provide genuine public service or to address specific problems in
which they have a personal interest. The system then tends to grind those
idealists down with frustration. Some end up going with the flow and
becoming just as self-serving and hypocritical as the rest, some just come
to their senses and leave the fray to rejoin the real world and the very
rare, durable, stubborn and determined example keeps slugging away in the
trenches.
As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites
and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms.
What we
really need are individuals of strong character who are willing to make and
stick to difficult decisions which may not be immediately popular to the
unschooled majority of voters. Sadly, such people are seldom able to fake
sincerity long enough or well enough to amuse the mass media for the length
of an election campaign. Does anyone really think the talking heads of
modern TV would ever allow the likes of an Abraham Lincoln to get a sniff of
the Oval Office? One of the most decent and competent Canadians to ever
offer himself as a candidate for Prime Minister, Bob Stanfield, was
unfortunate enough to have somewhat simian features and a shy, awkward
personal manner. The media killed his political career stone dead just
for the amusement of being able to lampoon the man on a daily basis,
printing and broadcasting cartoons of him eating a banana, documenting
every stumble or physical mis-step. How many similarly competent and
decent folks would willingly subject themselves and their families to such
treatment?
KH
Well put.
The media representatives are one step lower on the scale than the
politicians. They destroy peoples lives just for entertainment.
The thing that I have noticed is that retired politicians who no longer
have to toe the party line are often pretty smart, and have some
sensible ideas. I find that I quite like blokes who have previously
acted like unprincipled half wits.
Our "Labor" party out here has been involved in a steady process of
destroying itself ever since they got elected, the Prime minister has
just sacked one of their brightest men because he tried to make them
sort out their wrangling and get on with the job, and many of her front
bench have resigned because they couldn't manage to sack her and put a
previously rejected candidate in her place.
The only thing that might save them at the next election (though it gets
less and less likely) is that the leader of the opposition is such an
unpleasant loudmouthed character. I certainly wouldn't vote for any
party that he led.
MJRB
Depressing choosing between bad and worse, eh?
--
Tony Done
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=784456
http://www.flickr.com/photos/done_family/
I heard it expressed once as having to make the choice between the evil of
two lessers. ;-)

KH
David Hajicek
2013-03-24 23:22:36 UTC
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Post by Mike Brown
Post by Kevin Hall
Post by Mike Brown
Post by p***@nospam.us
On Fri, 22 Mar 2013 20:19:58 -0400, "Kevin Hall"
Post by Kevin Hall
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
Wait, where can you find that many honest politicians?
Out here at the moment you can't even find a rational one. Someone ought
to throw a net over them all and quietly dispose of them.
MJRB
Lots of good, decent people offer themselves as political candidates in an
attempt to provide genuine public service or to address specific problems in
which they have a personal interest. The system then tends to grind those
idealists down with frustration. Some end up going with the flow and
becoming just as self-serving and hypocritical as the rest, some just come
to their senses and leave the fray to rejoin the real world and the very
rare, durable, stubborn and determined example keeps slugging away in the
trenches.
As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites
and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms. What we
really need are individuals of strong character who are willing to make and
stick to difficult decisions which may not be immediately popular to the
unschooled majority of voters. Sadly, such people are seldom able to fake
sincerity long enough or well enough to amuse the mass media for the length
of an election campaign. Does anyone really think the talking heads of
modern TV would ever allow the likes of an Abraham Lincoln to get a sniff of
the Oval Office? One of the most decent and competent Canadians to ever
offer himself as a candidate for Prime Minister, Bob Stanfield, was
unfortunate enough to have somewhat simian features and a shy, awkward
personal manner. The media killed his political career stone dead just
for the amusement of being able to lampoon the man on a daily basis,
printing and broadcasting cartoons of him eating a banana, documenting
every stumble or physical mis-step. How many similarly competent and
decent folks would willingly subject themselves and their families to such
treatment?
KH
Well put.
The media representatives are one step lower on the scale than the
politicians. They destroy peoples lives just for entertainment.
The thing that I have noticed is that retired politicians who no longer
have to toe the party line are often pretty smart, and have some
sensible ideas. I find that I quite like blokes who have previously
acted like unprincipled half wits.
Our "Labor" party out here has been involved in a steady process of
destroying itself ever since they got elected, the Prime minister has
just sacked one of their brightest men because he tried to make them
sort out their wrangling and get on with the job, and many of her front
bench have resigned because they couldn't manage to sack her and put a
previously rejected candidate in her place.
The only thing that might save them at the next election (though it gets
less and less likely) is that the leader of the opposition is such an
unpleasant loudmouthed character. I certainly wouldn't vote for any
party that he led.
MJRB
As you say, once they are out of office, some of them turn out to be statesmen.
Dave
h***@ccanoemail.com
2013-03-24 21:16:32 UTC
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< snips >
Post by Kevin Hall
As I see it, the main problem with the modern democratic process is that
the very skills required to gain elected office these days are the exact
opposite of the skills actually needed to do the job. We end up with acres
of grinning ninnies who can dodge direct questions, provide amusing sound
bites and play 'lets' make a deal' with others of like mind in backrooms.
< snips >
Post by Kevin Hall
KH
... yep.
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David Hajicek
2013-03-24 23:24:16 UTC
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Post by Kevin Hall
Hi Dave;
"Ping" yerself. ;-) Same e-dress as always. Have you been getting some
back? Haven't heard from you in ages.
We're waiting for the ground to get soft enough to sink a footing for a new
sat. dish mast, because the highspeed internet peddlers are telling me that
with the new satellite which is now in a slightly higher orbit they should
be able to hook us up to real service at long last. That means if all goes
well we will be changing the e-dress, but probably not for another month or
so. Have to wait for the frost to get out of the ground, and before that
happens about two feet of snow needs to clear off.
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
All the best
KH
Post by David Hajicek
I'm thinking you have changed your e-mail account. Please drop me a note.
Regards,
Dave
I'll try again. I sent several and didn't get either a reply or bounce. Made me fear for the worst with that flu going around.

Glad to see you are still kicking.

Dave
Kevin Hall
2013-03-24 23:50:19 UTC
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Post by David Hajicek
Post by Kevin Hall
Hi Dave;
"Ping" yerself. ;-) Same e-dress as always. Have you been getting some
back? Haven't heard from you in ages.
We're waiting for the ground to get soft enough to sink a footing for a new
sat. dish mast, because the highspeed internet peddlers are telling me that
with the new satellite which is now in a slightly higher orbit they should
be able to hook us up to real service at long last. That means if all goes
well we will be changing the e-dress, but probably not for another month or
so. Have to wait for the frost to get out of the ground, and before that
happens about two feet of snow needs to clear off.
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
All the best
KH
Post by David Hajicek
I'm thinking you have changed your e-mail account. Please drop me a note.
Regards,
Dave
I'll try again. I sent several and didn't get either a reply or bounce.
Made me fear for the worst with that flu going around.
Glad to see you are still kicking.
Dave
Hi Dave; Something odd there. I've been here all along and receiving the
usual number of emails from all over the planet. Damned confusers really
are a screwball method of communication.

Still kicking all right, just a little lower and slower these days.

I hope all is well with you and the family.

KH
p***@philipramerconsulting.com
2018-09-24 19:31:12 UTC
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Post by Kevin Hall
Post by David Hajicek
Post by Kevin Hall
Hi Dave;
"Ping" yerself. ;-) Same e-dress as always. Have you been getting some
back? Haven't heard from you in ages.
We're waiting for the ground to get soft enough to sink a footing for a new
sat. dish mast, because the highspeed internet peddlers are telling me that
with the new satellite which is now in a slightly higher orbit they should
be able to hook us up to real service at long last. That means if all goes
well we will be changing the e-dress, but probably not for another month or
so. Have to wait for the frost to get out of the ground, and before that
happens about two feet of snow needs to clear off.
Just snagged a nice old '63 D-21 this afternoon, so I'm a happy camper.
One of my all-time favourite models, and harder to find than an honest
politician.
All the best
KH
Post by David Hajicek
I'm thinking you have changed your e-mail account. Please drop me a note.
Regards,
Dave
I'll try again. I sent several and didn't get either a reply or bounce.
Made me fear for the worst with that flu going around.
Glad to see you are still kicking.
Dave
Hi Dave; Something odd there. I've been here all along and receiving the
usual number of emails from all over the planet. Damned confusers really
are a screwball method of communication.
Still kicking all right, just a little lower and slower these days.
I hope all is well with you and the family.
KH
Hi Kevin,
Not sure if you remember me but you dropped in to encourage my guitar building vice some 30 years ago in Red Lake Ontario. The guitars I built with the templates and pointers you gave are still kicking and sounding great. Starting to build again after a 8 year break since my last one. The D-18 prewar top bracing pattern makes an amazing guitar to start but 30 year of being played and its amazing. Love to catch up sometime I live in Manitoba now. 204-898-1122 or ***@philipramerconsulting.com
Thanks.
Philip Ramer

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