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Opinions on Tippin OMT EIR/Alpine?
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p***@comcast.net
2005-10-22 17:55:16 UTC
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Anyone have any impression on these? Any owners like 'em? Dislike?

TIA
hans
2005-10-22 18:06:01 UTC
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Built when?? Or are you asking a general question about these?

I have played an OM in alpine and braz that was for sale at Acoustic
Roots (Phil) a couple of years ago. It was sensational in its clarity
and warmth. Neck nut was too narrow for me I prefer a 1-7/8". A guitar
I think about to this day after playing 50+ handmade guitars since.

A very experienced player and friend of mine played the Crecsendo at
Newport last summer and said it was fabulous. He owns a Blanchard and
has a custom archtop being built. He knows and was completely blown
away by this guitar.

Don;t know what you are looking for but you won;t find negative
comments about the guitars Tippin builds. Now, you need to decide how
you feel about the guitar in question.

hans
http://www.soundclick.com/hanstunes
p***@comcast.net
2005-10-22 18:31:14 UTC
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Thanks Hans, I was asking about general impressions on the make/model
in general, although I have been eyeballing a new one online. I'm
recovering from surgery, and all I am physically able to do is surf for
guitars ;), know what I mean?

Cheers
Post by hans
Built when?? Or are you asking a general question about these?
I have played an OM in alpine and braz that was for sale at Acoustic
Roots (Phil) a couple of years ago. It was sensational in its clarity
and warmth. Neck nut was too narrow for me I prefer a 1-7/8". A guitar
I think about to this day after playing 50+ handmade guitars since.
A very experienced player and friend of mine played the Crecsendo at
Newport last summer and said it was fabulous. He owns a Blanchard and
has a custom archtop being built. He knows and was completely blown
away by this guitar.
Don;t know what you are looking for but you won;t find negative
comments about the guitars Tippin builds. Now, you need to decide how
you feel about the guitar in question.
hans
http://www.soundclick.com/hanstunes
Carlos Alden
2005-10-22 23:10:24 UTC
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I have a Tippin OMT. It's very strong in the midrange with a warm but not
woofy bass. Definitely mellow on the treble. All notes - across the
strings and up and down the neck - seem very equal with each other in
projection and clarity and volume. Fingerpicked chords seem to hang in the
air with space among the notes - there's not blending together moosh. The
way it voices notes reminds me of a classical guitar.

Outstanding guitar in many respects, it has a definite and specific sound
that I've heard among other Tippins. It may be for you, and it may not. I
love it, and chose it from a field of similar guitars: Martin OM 18V,
Martin OM 21, Collings OM, Santa Cruz OM, a few Larivees, A Morgan OM, and a
flirtation with a few Taylors.

Carlos
p***@comcast.net
2005-10-22 23:18:07 UTC
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Interesting picture you paint Carlos, "chords seem to hang in the air
with space among the notes". How might it compare or contrast to a
Goodall TROM?

Thanks
Carlos Alden
2005-10-23 04:56:23 UTC
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Post by p***@comcast.net
Interesting picture you paint Carlos, "chords seem to hang in the air
with space among the notes". How might it compare or contrast to a
Goodall TROM?
Thanks
I'm unfamiliar with the Goodall TROM, so I can't comment.

Another observation: Some guitars have a lot of twang and splang, the
Tippin does NOT. To my ears it sounds as if new strings have already been
broken in and the glitzy, shiny new string sound is not there. I favor
that sound. Lots of fundamentals to each note, right in front of you.

If you played a Tippin next to other guitars you'd see what I mean
immediately.

Carlos
hans
2005-10-23 14:21:04 UTC
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The voices of 2 guitar makers, while very different, aren;t easily
quantified.

While the TROM I played about 6 mos ago was tighter and more coherent
than other Goodalls I have played, I hear Goodall's guitars as being
much more lively and with some excessive (for me) overtones. I hear
Tippin's guitars as being slightly tighter and with a more pronounced
emphasis on fundamental. I like controlling what the guitar is doing,
not having the guitar bring it's own manifestations to the mix. For me,
the Tippin allows this more readily than models of Goodal that I have
played. You may have an opposite taste in what you want the guitar to
do and that's why the selection of voices out there in guitars, which
has never been greater, is your ally. It occurs to me that I haven;t
ever heard a guitarist who complained that he/she couldn;t find a
guitar that they were in love with. Only that they couldn't afford that
guitar.

I think Will described Tippin guitars the way I hear them.

You must make sure that you try all these guitars yourself in deciding
what voice you want to hear in your guitar.

hans
http://www.soundclick.com/hanstunes
William D Clinger
2005-10-23 13:41:19 UTC
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I played one just once, when shopping for my first
steel-string guitar. To this day I think of it as
the best guitar I have ever played.

It was crisp without shrillness, solid not ponderous,
responsive not skittish. Even in my hands, it wanted
to make music.

Will
jetcode joe
2005-10-23 15:47:13 UTC
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Even in my hands, it wanted to make music.
now that's a compliment ... I know exactly what you mean ... some
guitars just start making music ... inspiring and invoking new sounds
out ... I had that experience with a McAllister at the Healdsburg thing
this year ... I started playing stuff that I never played before ...
inspirational ... great compliment to the luthier if you ask me ... and
a keeper if the piggy bank isn't empty ...

happy pickin'
joe
jetcode joe
2005-10-23 15:42:39 UTC
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I've only played one Tippin ... in fact it belonged to Larry Pattis at
the time ... a really nice guitar ... though I prefer wider necks ...
1-7/8" ...
Stephen Boyke
2005-10-23 18:21:17 UTC
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On 10/22/05 10:55 AM, in article
Post by p***@comcast.net
Anyone have any impression on these? Any owners like 'em? Dislike?
TIA
I've had a 1999 Tippin OMT (EIR/Alpine, -41 style) since it was new. It
isn't going anywhere. The guitar is simply wonderful. Bill Tippin mentions
that he builds his instruments for the long run, i.e., he's building the
guitar for it's life after opening up in the first few or so years. I can
attest to this.
p***@comcast.net
2005-10-23 21:02:07 UTC
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Is that the Tippin you brought to PNW III? I played it a bit, but
really dont remember much about its sound per se, as it was in the barn
hooked up to all kinds of crazy sound equipment, only to be heard
throgh headphones ;) Thanks for everyones input thus far...
p***@comcast.net
2005-10-26 22:42:22 UTC
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I pulled the trigger on the OMT. Expect some initial reviews sometime
next week...

Cheers
Post by p***@comcast.net
Is that the Tippin you brought to PNW III? I played it a bit, but
really dont remember much about its sound per se, as it was in the barn
hooked up to all kinds of crazy sound equipment, only to be heard
throgh headphones ;) Thanks for everyones input thus far...
p***@comcast.net
2005-11-09 00:00:29 UTC
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Well, the Tippin OMT is in transit to Marblehead, after 24 hours in my
posession. While it comes across as the warmest and most clean and
articulate guitars I've ever played, this one had a buzz/rattle inside
when tuned to the devil's tuning, low E string at the 12th fret.
Granted, its not my most frequently played note, but the guitar ought
not rattle/buzz. It also came with a bit of a twangy B string in all
positions. So, I attribute it to either UPS jostling, or Mando shop
wear, of which the latter also contributed a few very minor bumps &
bruises. Either way, Stan Jay covered the cost both ways back and
forth, and my hat is off to him for that. I also noted that the neck
has negative neck relief, something I'm unaccusomted to. Anybody know
of such reverse bow? It did give the guitar a heck of a tall saddle +
low action, but kind of curious to me. I anxiously await this guitar's
re-arrival!

Cheers
Carlos Alden
2005-11-09 01:42:04 UTC
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Post by p***@comcast.net
I also noted that the neck
has negative neck relief, something I'm unaccusomted to. Anybody know
of such reverse bow?
I've got an OMT and it does not have negative neck relief. Maybe that's
where all the noise is coming from. Especially the B string. I love the
Tippins precisely because the B string notes are so warm and fat.
Post by p***@comcast.net
I anxiously await this guitar's
re-arrival!
So, you're getting it fixed and returned?

Carlos
p***@comcast.net
2005-11-09 03:00:56 UTC
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Yes, thats the plan.

Jeff
Post by Carlos Alden
Post by p***@comcast.net
I also noted that the neck
has negative neck relief, something I'm unaccusomted to. Anybody know
of such reverse bow?
I've got an OMT and it does not have negative neck relief. Maybe that's
where all the noise is coming from. Especially the B string. I love the
Tippins precisely because the B string notes are so warm and fat.
Post by p***@comcast.net
I anxiously await this guitar's
re-arrival!
So, you're getting it fixed and returned?
Carlos
p***@comcast.net
2005-11-09 17:13:10 UTC
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Oh, and did I mention the pick guard was peeling up too? I attribute
that to the blazing heat and aqueous humidity around Mando this summer.
But I'm running out of things to attribute things to...

Cheers
Post by p***@comcast.net
Yes, thats the plan.
Jeff
Post by Carlos Alden
Post by p***@comcast.net
I also noted that the neck
has negative neck relief, something I'm unaccusomted to. Anybody know
of such reverse bow?
I've got an OMT and it does not have negative neck relief. Maybe that's
where all the noise is coming from. Especially the B string. I love the
Tippins precisely because the B string notes are so warm and fat.
Post by p***@comcast.net
I anxiously await this guitar's
re-arrival!
So, you're getting it fixed and returned?
Carlos
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